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August 3, 2022  

An inside peek into Dr. Terry Wahls’ upcoming study examining the affect of diet in the MS population

Tune in for the second part of our discussion with world-renowned Dr. Terry Wahls, creator of The Wahls Protocol. In today's discussion, we'll learn more about Dr. Wahls' role as a researcher. She shares about her upcoming randomized study, Efficacy of Diet on Quality of Life in Multiple Sclerosis

Diet is often heralded as the key ingredient to managing MS symptoms. But, with over a dozen "MS diets" out there that are often contradictory to each other, how do we really know which one is best? Or is there even one diet that works for everyone?

Everyone shares their opinions about the "proper" MS diet, from fellow MSers to complete strangers. But is the only evidence available anecdotal? What makes this study so exciting is that it's the largest, longest, randomized study about diet and MS.

Study outcomes will be measured both with physical measures, such as MRI findings and changes in walking ability, and patient-reported outcomes in regards to fatigue and mood.

We're all looking forward to the proof in that "gluten and dairy free" pudding. So grab those spoons and let's dig in.

In this episode, we'll learn more about the study. 

  • Inclusion/exclusion criteria
  • Location, start date, and duration
  • Physical measures being tested
  • Primary and secondary outcomes
  • 3 different diets being compared
  • Randomization process and adherence requirements
  • Time line of results

Dr. Wahls also discusses:

  • The importance of adopting a diet that's realistic for each household
  • The recent updates to her book, The Wahls Protocol, and how results from this study may shape further revisions
  • The carnivore diet as the "ultimate" elimination diet and her reservations about it

For more information about Dr. Wahls upcoming study check out these links:

Study information

Recruitment Poster

Screening eligibility

Additional links:

DR. TERRY WAHLS:

Website

Book - The Wahls Protocol - with access to BONUS content

THE MS GYM:

Website

YouTube

Facebook

Instagram

 

July 27, 2022  

HOW THE FOOD WE EAT BECOMES THE BRAIN & BODY WE LIVE IN: A Deep Dive with Dr. Terry Wahls

Hello everyone and welcome to a very special 2-part episode of the MS Gym podcast. At the moment, Jodi and I are currently on our usual summer podcast hiatus, but when author Dr. Terry Wahls, the creator of The Wahls Protocol, reached out to us to help share information about a new study she's working on, we were honored and MORE than happy to oblige.  We both thought it would be a perfect opportunity to host an episode together and, of course, we couldn't wait to share the episodes with our listeners.

So, you might be thinking, who is Dr. Terry Wahls? What's the Wahls Protocol?

Dr. Wahls is currently a clinical professor of medicine at the University of Iowa Carver College of Medicine in Iowa City, Iowa, U.S.A., where she teaches internal medicine residents in their primary care clinics. She also does clinical research and has published over 60 peer-reviewed scientific abstracts, and papers.

What gives Dr. Wahls a unique perspective in her field, is the fact that in. 2003 she was diagnosed with RRMS  and quickly transitioned to SPMS a few short years later. 

At that time, she put her researched-oriented brain to work and discovered that most MS treatments centered around drugs that were years away from approval. Given that, she diverted her attention to the role of vitamins and supplements, which were readily available, in helping brain disorders, as part of a treatment plan. She added to her research repertoire functional medicine, a biology–based approach that focuses on identifying and addressing the root cause of disease and from there started compiling a list of supplemental nutrients that would assist in brain health. Her ah ha moment came when she asked herself, what if she created a diet that would include those important brain nutrients, not from supplements, but from the foods she ate...and the rest is Wahls Protocol history! 

In this episode one of two, we'll get a closer look at Dr. Wahls own physical decline and how she ate her way back to health and onto creating the now infamous Wahls Protocol. We'll also ask her about the new study she's working on. 

EPISODE NOTES:

  • Who is Dr. Terry Wahls?
  • Her unique perspective
  • Eating her way to healthy
  • Too weak to sit in a chair
  • Why mitochondria is key
  • Diet, exercise and supplements
  • How it changed her career path
  • What MS drugs she's taken over the years 
  • Her chemotherapy experience
  • Redesigning her Paleo diet
  • When the magic happened
  • The highlights of the Wahls Protocol
  • Where are the nutrients in the food?
  • Her troublesome trigeminal neuralgia
  • Being able to sit at the dining table
  • Making symptomatic strides from food alone
  • The bike ride that changed everything
  • Bringing the Wahls Protocol to the masses
  • When her own residents started trying her protocol
  • Running her own clinic
  • "Give me your sickest people"
  • Is it a healing diet?
  • A body's regenerative capacity
  • Fixing the microbiome
  • Is it a high fat, low carb diet?
  • Less sugar, more vegetables and protein, yes or no?
  • FATS, what types are important?
  • How the standard American diet is destructive
  • Meeting people where they're at
  • Explaining why there is NOT a one size fits all diet
  • Is coconut oil really like "the devil"?
  • Pre-diet blood work
  • How our genetic differences change the efficacy of our diet choices
  • Should children be on a ketogenic diet
  • Who you shouldn't be listening to
  • The family factor
  • Dr. Wahls study

LINKS:

DR. TERRY WAHLS:

Website

Book - The Wahls Protocol - with access to BONUS content

THE MS GYM:

Website

YouTube

Facebook

Instagram

BROOKE SLICK:

Website

Instagram

June 22, 2022  

The Necessity of Nana’s Nurture

Travel with us overseas today as we chat with Julie Wake and explore her:

  • Initial symptoms and delayed diagnosis
  • Defeated feelings and "death sentence" mindset
  • Lifestyle commitments to diet, mindfulness and exercise
  • New found ability to see her mobility tools as an aid and not a crutch
  • Recent travel endeavours
  • Daily motivation for pressing play

The MS Gym Links

The MS Gym

June 8, 2022  

How Anni Got Her Groove Back

What an encouraging podcast episode we've got for you today from one of our superstar gymmers, Annika.

Join us as we learn about her:

  • Prolonged diagnosis and denial
  • Tangled web of disease-modifying therapies
  • Experience with the Coimbra Protocol (high-dose vitamin D medical treatment)
  • Finding The MS Gym
  • Hope through neuroplasticity
  • Inspiration and courage to tackle new adventures
  • Daily exercise habits

"My advice to other disabled people would be, concentrate on things your disability doesn't prevent you doing well, and don't regret the things it interferes with. Don't be disabled in spirit, as well as physically.” - Stephen Hawkin

The MS Gym Links

The MS Gym

What The Heck is Neuroplasticity?

May 25, 2022  

WHY SEEKING COUNSELING IS WISE, NOT WEAK: My Personal Struggle with Trigeminal Neuralgia & Fear

This episode is up close and personal for me. It explains why I've been off grid for the last few months, my continued battle with trigeminal neuralgia, and, even more disturbing (at least to me), my mental struggle with fear.

I will share how even the most strong-willed, strong-minded person you know, may need to seek counseling to get over the mental hurdles of living with a chronic illness.

Most importantly, I want you all to know that seeking counseling is for the wise, not the weak. It can set you free from your time-wasting, joy-sucking struggle with fear and mental angst.

EPISODE NOTES:

-Flu, shingles and a trigeminal neuralgia (TN) attack

-How pain can make your life very small

-Surgery, surgery and more surgery over the years

-My next move

-Weighing options

-My choice to have gamma knife (radiation) treatment

-The patience required for recovery

-The disappointment of attacks after surgery

-Being offered pain meds as a stopgap

-Waiting for the healing to happen

-A long history of medical mishaps

-A stroke at age 35

-An unexpected autoimmune clotting disorder

-Finally, an MS diagnosis

-A pile of failed MS drugs

-Suck it up buttercup mentality

-Constantly revisiting painful medical trauma

-Getting stuck in a loop

-Reliving past traumas

-The difference in past trauma and trauma now

-The unpredictability of TN

-The fear that led me to counseling

-Having your fear validated

-Simple tools to reprogram your thoughts

-Shutting down the stigma

-Seeking counseling does not mean you're weak. It means you're wise

-Stop letting fear waste your time and destroy your joy

LINKS:

The MS Gym

Instagram - @themsgym

YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMSGym

Website - www.themsgym.com

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheMSGym/?ref=share

Brooke Slick

Instagram - @brooke.slick

Website - www.brookeslick.com

May 12, 2022  

Celebrating in Sacred Spaces

Today, we chat with Susan and learn about her two-decade journey with MS. Join us as she talks about her:

  • First symptoms
  • Diagnosis
  • Familial connection with MS
  • Challenges with employement
  • Lifestyle and medical choices
  • Dedication to exercise and The MS Gym
  • Her upcoming "why"
  • Meaningful walking victories and community support
  • Freedom and joy in doing everyday chores
  • Advice for new MS Gym members
  • Buddy Group

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The MS Gym

March 23, 2022  

Build Your Mindset Muscle

Feel refreshed today as we chat with MS Gymmer Jennifer Laymon and hear about her:

  • Houdini symptoms
  • Treatment choices
  • Belief in The MS Gym
  • Negative self-talk
  • Dedication to growth
  • Many physical and mental victories
  • Winner mindset about exercise and effort
  • Goals and dreams for the future

MS Gym Links

Motivation Monday: How To Live a Life By DESIGN..NOT by Diagnosis

Motivation Monday: You are NOT Alone Anymore

Mindset Minute: Feed Your Mind Well

THE MS GYM

 

March 7, 2022  

Embracing our Inabilities

Are you fighting for control?

It can be so tiring to make the "right" choices. So exhausting to do everything perfectly. What happens when we think we're on the right path but it doesn't lead to the destination we were hoping for? What then?

What would it look like for you to embrace your inability to control everything?

February 9, 2022  

Walking Wonderlands

Today, we venture overseas to chat with Susannah to learn more about her:

  • Multifaceted diagnosis
  • Support system
  • Teaching career
  • Love of travel
  • Walking adaption with trekking poles
  • Increased Confidence
  • Improvements, mentally and physically
  • Deep desire to connect with friends and family
  • Her goals and plans for the future

MS GYM LINKS

The MS Gym

January 25, 2022  

CANES VS. TREKKING POLES: What’s Right for You and When with Trevor Wicken

Welcome to the episode I've been dying to bring to you! It's all about the use of canes and trekking poles, and, most importantly, the advantages or disadvantages of using one or the other; and, yes, believe it or not, there are HUGE differences in these two modes of assistance.

Luckily for us, today we have access to wisdom and professional insight of Trevor Wicken, founder of the MS Gym, to break it all down for us.

I think it's important to point out that though many of you may know him as Coach Trevor, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that Trevor holds a Bachelor’s Degree in Sports Medicine and Master’s Degree in Exercise Physiology & Biomechanics. His education AND his 21+ years of professional experience are steeped in biomechanical analysis, neurologic strength training and neuroplasticity in addition to his other specialties. I can think of no better resource to give us advice on how, when, and which assistive device we should be using.

EPISODE NOTES:

  • At what point in your mobility journey should you be considering a assistive device?
  • The stigma that accompanies assistive device use
  • Paying attention to your patterns of mobility difficulty
  • Giving yourself permission to allow yourself to feel safe
  • Why Trevor loves trekking poles
  • Our bodies are wired for symmetry
  • Assistive devices give your brain the opportunity to chill and concentrate on walking
  • What's missing in your walking chain when you use a cane?
  • The danger of asymmetry
  • Restoring gait patterns with trekking poles
  • Who wouldn't you recommend a cane or trekking poles for?
  • When one trekking pole or cane should be used
  • You've got to check your ego!
  • What comes first, a rollator or a cane/trekking pole?
  • When you're not ready for trekking poles
  • In which hand should you be holding your cane trekking pole
  • How reaching for things throws you off balance
  • Are there programs within the MS Gym (membership or free) that specifically address cane and trekking pole use?
  • The final word on which device Trevor favors...canes or trekking poles?
  • The ongoing conversation we have with ourselves regarding the stigma of mobility device use
  • Learning not to be ego driven
  • You can't control what people think
  • What's good for you is good for your social circle
  • The gift of the disease

LINKS:

The MS Gym

Instagram - @themsgym

Website - www.themsgym.com

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheMSGym/?ref=share

Brooke Slick

Instagram - @brooke.slick

Website - www.brookeslick.com

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